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> - Several problems with the makefiles not deleting links before making
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Did you note which specific makefiles failed?
I'll assume you have
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I'm looking for a Swedish Lexicon-module for the spelling program
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info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu Subject:
speed of drawing text under OW 2.0
We've noticed that Andrew typescript (and ez, etc.) scrolls much more
slowly under OpenWindows 2.0 than does X11R4 xterm (perhaps 6-8 times
more slowly), on a Sun (SunOS 4.0.3) SparcStation-1 with a GX board.
This seems to be because Andrew uses "PolyText8" X protocol requests to
draw strings, and xterm uses "ImageText8" to draw strings.
"PolyText8"
is a much more general request than "ImageText8", and apparently
underoptimized in the OW server.
As far as I can see in traces of the
typescript tool, Andrew doesn't use the more general facilities of the
"PolyText8" request, and could use the simpler and
more-likely-to-be-optimized "ImageText8" request instead.
Andrew seems only to draw one TEXTITEM at a time, they always seem to be
strings (never offsets or fonts), and they always seem to use the same
It would seem possible to change the call to XDrawString in
atk/basics/x/xgraphic.c to a call to XDrawImageString, without
disturbing anything.
We'd still revert to XDrawText (and thus
PolyText8), when drawing complicated fonts, but would win on drawing
simple fixed-width fonts.
Any quarrels with this analysis?
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(EDT) From: Zalman Stern
To: Info-Andrew
Subject: Re: standard
utility libraries In-Reply-To:
References:
There is a routine called NewString in libutil.a. It does not check to
see if its argument is NULL, but it does check to see if the return
value from malloc is NULL. (I know we ATK bozos ignore NULL malloc
returns as a matter of policy. I'll probably still be feeling guilty
about writing such code 20 years from now.)
NewString should probably
return NULL when given a NULL parameter.
(Some might argue that
NewString is like strlen and the behavior when passed NULL is
undefined.)
There is no equivalent to FreeString. The assumption is that free will
do the job. I suppose one could argue against that approach.
So why does everybody write their own version of NewString? Probably
because few programmers know of NewString's existence. Also, it may have
to be added to the globals table so it can be called from dynamically
loaded code.
There are occasions when I don't want to link against
libutil.a because it has other grody stuff I don't want to link into my
programs. That's mostly because I don't agree with the taste of
everybody who puts things in libutil.a .
Sincerely, Zalman Stern | Internet: zs01+@andrew.cmu.edu | Usenet: I'm
soooo confused... Information Technology Center, Carnegie Mellon,
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I fixed a bug in the APA16 X server some time ago when it would not
properly handle more than one TEXTITEM in the PolyText8 calls that
Andrew was making.
So for the moment, I will disagree with the findings of your tracings.
It may be that a patch came along that cut the items to the degenerate
Who was last inside drawtextv?
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I'm running ez 7.0, ATK 15.0 (Patch level 6) on a Sparc 1, SunOS
4.0.3c. I have ispell installed (and I can invoke it from the same
command line I invoke ez), but ez core dumps when I select check
spelling from the command line.
I'm not sure whether this is a bug or a configuration problem,
because I found earlier this year that Patch level 5 core dumped when it
couldn't find ispell.
Has anyone else had this problem?
importantly, has anyone else solved this problem?
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I wrote a program in the vein of nsb's eatmail to safely move mail from
/usr/spool/mail into ~/Mailbox, but I've discovered that
AMS_MailCollectionCommand gets run *after* /usr/spool/mail/joeuser is
checked and collected.
Am I missing something?
I would think that if
AMS_MailCollectionCommand (and apparently PersonalMailCollectionCommand
as well) is set, that the system shouldn't collect from
/usr/spool/mail/joeuser *at all*.
In ams/libs/ms/mungenew.c, I find:
if (homeUsesAMSDelivery < 0) {
char SpoolFileName[1 +
MAXPATHLEN], *HomeBox, *SpoolF
/* Only convert /usr/spool/mail-type stuff if we're checking our
HomeBox = GetPersonalMailbox();
sprintf(SpoolFileName, "%s/Mailbox", home);
if (strcmp(HomeBox,
SourceDir) == 0 || strcmp(SpoolFileName, SourceDir)$
SpoolFile = getenv("MAIL");
if (SpoolFile == NULL ||
*SpoolFile == '
sprintf(SpoolFileName, "%s/%s",
AMS_MailBoxPrefix, Me);
strcpy(SpoolFileName, SpoolFile);
mserrcode =
ConvertIncomingMail(SpoolFileName, SourceDir, &numfound$
(mserrcode) return (mserrcode);
(PersonalMailCollectionCommand) {
syscode = system(PersonalMailCollectionCommand);
(syscode) {
char ErrorText[100+MAXPATHLEN];
sprintf(ErrorText, "Personal mail collection command %s
failed with$
NonfatalBizarreError(ErrorText);
AMS_RETURN_ERRCODE(EMSBOGUS, EIN_SYSTEM, EVIA_PROCNEWMSGS);
if (AMS_MailCollectionCommand) {
syscode = system(AMS_MailCollectionCommand);
(syscode) {
char ErrorText[100+MAXPATHLEN];
sprintf(ErrorText, "System mail collection command %s failed
NonfatalBizarreError(ErrorText);
AMS_RETURN_ERRCODE(EMSBOGUS, EIN_SYSTEM, EVIA_PROCNEWMSGS);
Shouldn't the initial conditional change from
if (homeUsesAMSDelivery < 0) {
if (homeUsesAMSDelivery < 0 &&
( ! (PersonalMailCollectionCommand
|| AMS_MailCollectionCommand) )) {
Also, just what is "PersonalMailCollectionCommand" anyway?
It seems to
be redundant given AMS_MailCollectionCommand, and I haven't seen mention
of it in any docs.
The scenario is that I run Messages on my diskless workstation, and mail
physically resides on another machine.
I want to safely collect mail
from my mailbox there into ~/Mailbox, rather than take the chance of AMS
on my workstation and binmail on the server stomping on each other. The
server's /usr/spool/mail is mounted on my workstation because I've just
been taking the chance, and also so that I can use "from" and any of a
variety of xbiffy programs.
But even when I specify
AMS_MailCollectionCommand, /usr/spool/mail/datri gets read and truncated
before my MailCollectionCommand gets run, so the latter never actually
gets to do its thing.
The only way I see to work around this without changing the source and
rebuilding (ugggh) is to not have /usr/spool/mail from the server
pointed to by the local /usr/spool/mail, but that's ugly, and it really
should work as I've described.
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To: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu,
fernwood!oracle!news@ (Jonathan Levine) Subject: Re: Spell
core dumps In-Reply-To:
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Excerpts from info-andrew: 6-Sep-90 Spell core dumps Jonathan
Levine@decwrl.d (719)
I'm not sure whether this is a bug or a configuration problem,
because I > found earlier this year that Patch level 5 core dumped when
it couldn't > find ispell.
Has anyone else had this problem?
importantly, has anyone > else solved this problem?
Not that it helps, but we also had the problem of ez core dumping when
trying to invoke ispell as well. However when I compiled that object
with debugging in an attempt to find out what the problem was, the
problem went away. I therefore installed the object compiled with
debugging in it and have since forgotten about it.
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10:09:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Nathaniel Borenstein
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Graham Dumpleton@otc.otc (680)
> However when I compiled that object with debugging in an attempt to
find > out what the problem was, the problem went away. I therefore
installed > the object compiled with debugging in it and have since
forgotten about > it.
Possibly the buggy version was compiled with -O?
On Suns, -O is
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10:08:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Nathaniel Borenstein
To: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: Re:
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Well, I can see arguments for having it either way.
But certainly your
desire to not have it read from /usr/spool/mail/xxx is reasonable in the
circumstances, and there should at least be a way to do it.
Is there anyone out there who would be unhappy if the existence of a
configured mail collection command meant that the automatic checking of
/usr/spool/mail/xxx was turned off?
BTW, the reason there's a personal mail collection command is that
sometimes it makes sense for individuals to be able to customize this
AMS_MailCollectionCommand, set in AndrewSetup, affects the
whole site, while PersonalMailCollectionCommand is user-specific.
latter turns out to have been useful for some people at Bellcore who
receive mail on one machine and read it on a workstation, because this
is not the "universal" situation at Bellcore.
(There is NO universal
situation at B we have the most fragmented system I've ever
imagined...)
Anyway, at the very least there should be an option to NOT check
/usr/spool/mail/XXX to improve your situation, and possibly it should
never be checked when one of the two mail collection commands is set.
have no strong opinion on that one, but other people might.
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Has anyone outside the ITC actually managed to DO this? The "imake"
supplied with this workstation build a "Makefile" which fails to define
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information from the X11 tree is, somehow, not included. Not that there
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Basically, I can't build a working top-level Makefile so any help would
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We got into some problems using the Andrew toolkit. What we want to do
is building an application that runs in several windows, created from
within ATK procedures.
So, please give me some hints how to (best):
- create and delete windows (WITH control over their size, their
appearance, etc.)
- restrict an object from resizing (in celview ??)
- get the position of the end of text in an text object
(in screen
coordinates)
- set the insert position in a text object
- restrict the menu cards to display only desired entries
- get the ATK, patchlevel 6, to run on a VAXstation with
- get a description of the available methods and objects
don't tell me to RTFM, we ordered N.Borenstein's book,
but we have
to wait, and - of course - are in a hurry
Many thanks in advance,
____________________________________________________________ Juergen
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I tried to re-make andrew after installing SunOS 4.1, and I get:
-I/usr/andrew/include/atk -I/usr/andrew/include
-I//usr/include/X11 -o dotest dotest.o ../lib/libclass.a ld: Undefined
_class_double
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Fatal error: Command failed for target `dotest' Current working
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Is there some trick to this that I'm missing?
I can't even find
class_double in .../overhead/class/cmd.
Thanks for any suggestions.
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info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: Problems in sending messages (AMS
without AFS or AMSD )
I have setup AMS to run without AFS or AMSD, but I am having some
I am running on a IBM/RT AIX 2.2.1 with ATK patch level 6.
When I send a message the following message box appears:
"Submission
Failed: Can't write message to /usr/lib/sendmail: Interrupted system
call." At the bottom of the screen the following appears:
Unknown operation system error (in dropoff in SubmitMessage)., Even with
this error,
the message had already been successfully sent. I looked at
the code in overhead/util/lib/topen.c
int tclose(ptr, seconds, timedout) FILE * int seconds, * {
register f, ..... ....
while ((r=wait(&status)) != popen_pid[f]
&& r != -1) ; .. .. , and found out for some reason the wait() system
setting the status argument to 17,
because of this messages
thinks it never sent the message.
Any thoughts on what I can do?
Please, E-mail
any suggestions.
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I'm trying to build vopcon (the AFS version of console).
I have AFS
3.0, and I get the following unresolved references: .r_Init .r_NewConn
.RControlGetServers
Also, r_nPackets and r_nRetries are undefined.
Can anyone tell me where these are (supposed to be) located?
(Or, maybe I should first ask if vopcon even works with AFS 3.0?) This
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info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: Changing AMS headers and more.
I have a number of question with regards to ATK (patch level 6, and AMS
without AFS or AMSD).
Is there any way to change the "message composing" headers
permanently (without using "insert header"), either system wide or by
individual user?
I need to add a couple of headers. e.g.
change to:
New-header: eatmail:
Can anyone tell how
"eatmail" is used with AMS? Also, where can I obtain the latest and
greatest version?
Is there a recommended strategy to convert MH mail to
thinking of creating a symbolic link under .MESSAGES, and running
"reconstruct", or is "eatmail" the way to convert?
printscribe: It core dumps whenever I've tried to print an org file,
with the following message:
"$ printscribe -troff -o file.out file.org
Starting ezprint (Version Unknown, ATK 15.0); please wait...
arena corruption discovered at - fr
Abort(coredump)". Any suggestions?
If /dev/console is only rw for root,
the console window
display "Initializing fudgenut" and disappear without any messages
stating what's wrong.
Should there be a least a message stating why
console could not come up?
I am running on a IBM/RT AIX 2.2.1 with ATK patch level 6. Please,
E-mail any suggestions.
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Date: Thu, 13 Sep
:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Nathaniel Borenstein
Subject: Re: Changing AMS
headers and more. In-Reply-To:
References:
You can probably get the effect you desire in the headers only by either
A) changing the code or B)
doing some init file hacking.
In the latter
scenario, which is REALLY ugly, what you'd do would be to replace things
the "Reply to Sender" menu & keystrokes with compound commands
that do the normal action and then add the header you want.
have an example of exactly what you want, but the following init file
line sets up a custom menu that sets up a reply to the sender, fills in
the body, and then actually sends off the mail and deletes the message
you were reading.
You might use at as a sort of perverse inspiration
for doing what you want to do...
# addmenu messages-compound-operation "Custom~99,On The List~11"
messages messages inherit "messages-reply-to-
messages-sendmessage-compound sendmessage-insert-file
/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr2/nsb/.
messages-sendmessage-compound sendmessage-excerpt-
messages-sendmessage-compound sendmessage-send-
messages-delete-current"
A third way to extend the system that wouldn't have to use this awful
syntax would be to use N I'm not sure how exactly, but I'm pretty
sure it could be done.
(Actually, it might be a lot easier with Ness,
but I'm not a Ness expert.)
As far as eatmail goes:
What it does is convert mbox format files to
separate files in a directory (~/Mailbox by default) for processing by
So I doubt that it's what you want.
For converting MH mail to AMS, I think you have the right idea -- CUI
reconstruct is the way to go.
The reconstruction might work better if
you first type "create folder-name" to create the folder index and then
"reconstruct folder-name" to fill it in properly.
As for printscribe & console, well, I can't help much on those...
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Subject: Multiple references to single dataobjects within a table?
I would like to create a document, with multiple table, where the
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Is it good style to allow a #include inside a .ch file?
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We are a team from Computer and Communication Laboratory
(CCL), a branch of Industry Technology Research Institute (ITRI),
Taiwan, trying to push AMS in our local environment. We are in the
infancy of the 1-year project and have some questions crucial to our
We get the Andrew system in X11 r4 distribution tape and have not
installed it yet. Our members have taken some time in looking over the
directories and files. It turns out that the on-tape documentation is
not complete. For instance, we lack the list of methods provided by the
ATK. Moreover, most of the documents can't be printed before the system
We are going to add a Chinese-text object to the ATK. Is the AMS
good enough to automatically take advantage of the new object?
Since 386 machines are much cheaper than SUNs, we believe 386/Unix
based AMS is more affordable to our users. Is there a 386 version
already available? Or we should do the porting ourselves. Which part(s)
of the Andrew system is/are relevant to the porting?
Any responses to the questions or comments to our project will be
greatly appreciated. Even more appreciated is the hints to any traps or
problems we can't foresee now.
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fonts for MacX.
From discussion on the mailing list I know that various people are using
Andrew with MacX. Would any of those people be willing to put up for ftp
the converted Andrew fonts so that I and others in the future don't have
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10:30:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Nathaniel Borenstein
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If you write a Chinese text object as an inset, and you install it in
the right directory, it will be automatically usable by AMS, with
exactly the same interface it is usable anywhere else.
As for ATK documentation, I believe that CMU is currently trying to get
rid of some paper copies of the ATK its documentation -- see the message
posted only yesterday by Tom Neuendorffer for more information.
also get copies of my book about ATK from Prentice Hall.
I believe that the curernt version of the Andrew distribution (patch
level 6) includes support for 386 machines running Mach.
Other variants
of UNIX on the 386 might require some porting effort.
For the most
part, the parts of Andrew that need to be ported are quite localized,
and the only thing that is at all challenging to port is the dynamic
Hope that helps!
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info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: Re: Changing AMS headers and more.
Thanks to everyone for the quick responses and suggestions..
I am currently trying to add headers through "addmenu" , but I am having
some problems. Here is what I have in the .messagesinit file:
addmenu messages-compound-operation ",Send External Message~52" messages
messages inherit "messages-reply-to-
messages-sendmessage-compound sendmessage-add-header
X-External-N messages-sendmessage-compound
sendmessage-headers-textview-compound textview-self-
messages-sendmessage-compound sendmessage-set-not-modified"
And this is what I get in my "messages Composing" window: